New King Size Kingsdown Sleep To Live Mattress Set

Filed in Home & Living by on May 3, 2009 0 Comments

This is a humorous little story. Well, it’s humorous now that the whole little shopping ordeal is over, but it wasn’t earlier in the day yesterday.

Okay, my parents are coming up to visit. This is pretty exciting because they haven’t been to the house yet. Also, they are now southerners, so they totally forget what the North looks like…well, maybe not. Anyway, they will be here in just a few weeks and up until yesterday, they had no where to sleep.

We have been meaning to get a bed for the guest bedroom for about a year now. We really need one and every house should have one. We have already had two people stay over and they both had to sleep on the couch (one at a time). I really didn’t care that those two people slept on the couch, but I can’t expect my parents to sleep there. After all, they are very special people. You know, come to think of it…I’m still waiting for my father to come over and turn the lights on and off and on and off and jump on the couch all day. He used to threaten to do that to me when I was a kid. That’s right, he used to tell me that he was going to come over to where I was living and leave the doors wide open and the lights on all day. I guess he was trying to teach me a lesson.

Back to the bed. Buying a bed that you don’t need is probably one of the most annoying things a person can do. Beds are expensive and having an expensive bed sitting in a room that you don’t use is just ridiculous. Trust me, I thought of all different ways to get out of this. I considered getting a futon, considered getting a new bed for us and moving our old one in the guest bedroom and considered putting my parents up in a hotel. I know, I know, we needed the bed anyway. Putting them in a hotel wouldn’t solve the problem of housing future guests.

I put this project off for such a long time. It’s amazing; I am finally going to the dentist every six months, but I can’t find my way into a mattress store for the life of me. Well, yesterday was the day that we dragged ourselves out of the house and drove up to Sleepy’s in Manchester. We were just going to look, because I had a plan.

After college, when I lived in Atlanta, I wanted one thing. I wanted a real bed. I slept in some pretty bad conditions while at college and all I wanted was to sleep in a nice queen size bed with a Simmons Beautyrest mattress, just like my friend had. I liked his mattress. It had those independently pocketed coils and it was really comfortable. When I moved down south, one of the first things I did was to order that mattress. Well, 10 years came and went last year and that mattress began making our backs ache. We ordered a new mattress. Our new mattress is okay, but nothing special. It’s only a year old and is fairly comfortable.

I spent some time doing a little mattress research online before we went up to Sleepy’s. My plan was to go into the store, lay down on a good number of beds and then take off, only to buy one online. I had a hunch that I could get a bed cheaper by ordering it from 1-800-mattress or something like that. After all, I think I got the whole Simmons Beautyrest bed set from them for a little over $400 back eleven years ago. How much can they be now?

We walked into the Sleepy’s store and instantly found the Simmons Beautyrest beds. We layed down on a few of them and Laura picked out two she liked. Then, the sales guy came over. He started talking about the benefits of sleep and all that. I put my hand up to stop him before he even got started. I told him that we were only looking for a queen size bed set for a guest room. It doesn’t have to be all that great, but it does need those independently pocketed coils. I am simply hung up on them.

Oh yeah, I also told him my budget was $650. Yeah, that’s $650 I really did not want to spend.

He showed us a few of the cheaper beds. Actually, the cheapest bed set was $999 and it was pretty cheap. I thought $999 was a lot of money, but I guess it’s really not in the bedding world. Now, $8000 is a lot. If you spent a grand for a bed ten years ago, you were living like a king.

Somehow, my plan of just trying out a few beds and leaving was forgotten. I got all wrapped up in trying to negotiate a cheaper price for a cheap bed. Unfortunately, the lowest this guy would go was $999. There was nothing in the store for less.

As we were laying on all these beds in total comfort, the wheels in my mind started turning. I started picturing myself sleeping on a nice luxurious bed, like there were so many of in this particular store.

As time went on, I get the feeling that the sales guy and I were coming to some sort of an agreement about purchasing a bed set. I know he knew that I really didn’t want to spend much money, but he also saw my face when I was trying out some of the beds. I was very non-committal…I wouldn’t put my feet up. I would sort of lay halfway on the bed while trying to figure out if it was comfortable or not. There was a wide variety of comfort available.

You know, beds have come a long way these past few years. There are all sorts of pillowtop, folding, vibrating, shaking and some even have little arms that come out of the sides to rub your belly if you want. Okay, that last one was a stretch. Seriously though, some of these beds are really, really comfortable.

In Sleepy’s, there is this air mattress that the customer can lay on that is hooked to a computer. It allegedly calibrates something-or-other and spits out a piece of paper that tells you what “color” firmness or softness you are. I was a green and Laura was a blue. We were very close to one another. We probably would have picked those colors anyway because the firm mattresses are really hard and the soft ones are like couch cushions.

As time went on, we found ourselves laying more and more on the “Kingsdown- Sleep to Live” brand of mattress. There was something different about these mattresses. They provided some serious comfort. The sales guy was only too happy to discuss the benefits of the Sleep To Live brand of mattress with us.

As I lay on the queen size, semi-firm Sleep To Live mattress, I envisioned myself setting this exact bed set up in the bedroom…just not the guest bedroom. I mean, since our current mattress is only a year old, what’s the harm of sliding that into the guest bedroom and having us sleep on something new and luxurious? I mean really. The bad part was that the prices kept going higher and higher as I moved on to better mattresses.

I don’t know what came over me, but at some point in the day, I found myself asking the sales guy about the price differences between the king size bed sets and the queen. A few hundred bucks. Hmmm.

Okay guys, I am going to make a long story short and tell you that we now have a new Sleep To Live, king size mattress set, a new king size sheet set and a new bed frame set up in the bedroom…not the guest bedroom.

I always wanted a king size bed. We slept on it last night and I think it was nice. I can’t get past the part of how I feel like I don’t deserve to be laying on something so nice. I probably don’t deserve it; no one does. It’s bedding gluttony, pure and simple.

I will tell you that I did a tremendous amount of negotiating for this bed. I know certainly well that Sleepy’s is not selling too many bed sets these days and I took advantage of that. As I was going through my normal routine of chewing the guy down, he kept asking me if I wanted to finance everything. Finance it? I almost asked him if he was serious. Who in the world finances a bed? Where I come from, if you can’t afford a nice bed, you sleep on a not-so-nice one. What has this world turned into where companies offer financing for mattresses? Remember, I’m the guy who used to use a 5-gallon bucket as a chair and slept on some used mattress on the floor back in college. I mean, c’mon.

I’m back. I would offer up a picture of the new bed, but it is not made right now. Perhaps I will take a picture of it when we get a new headboard.

Over and out.


Liz says:
May 3, 2009 at 9:06 pm

That is a great story.
We even shop alike, Jay.
Well done.
Our mattress is almost 8 years old but I have had two big, fat pregnancies on my side so I would say that we’re ready for a new one.
And I want a Kinger!
We’ll see… lots of logistics to it.
I am hoping that a new house comes first. Then the bed switcheroo will be smooth and involve my kids. :)
brian12566 says:
May 4, 2009 at 4:42 am

Nice post. I have a king size Temperpedic mattress on a ginormous captain’s bed frame…you know the ones with the drawers under the mattress….fantastic. King Size matress is one of life’s most precious gifts. Ok that might be over dramatic, but still-Kings Size is simply awesome.
Mom says:
May 4, 2009 at 10:10 am

So let me get this straight – after getting us all excited about the “sleep to live” mattress, we’re getting the old used one? And to think of all we’ve done for you …. And yes, your father might leave your lights on and your doors open like he promised all those years ago, but somehow I don’t think he’ll bother jumping on your couch.
admin says:
May 4, 2009 at 11:20 am

Oh don’t worry, you’ll love the other mattress. It’s very comfortable and your room has a splendid view of a lush rainforest. Just say hello at the front desk when you arrive.
admin says:
May 4, 2009 at 11:37 am

Yeah, we tried out the Tempur-pedic mattresses. They are really comfortable, but I wasn’t sure if I could get used to it. I have heard great things about them though.

I am still trying to get used to this new king size mattress. There is a lot more room, but I am certainly enjoying it.
M says:
May 5, 2009 at 11:36 am

I work for Sleepys and I’m thinking about switching from tempurpedic to sleep to live, the new lineup is seriously constructed very well. What series did you get? (200, 400, 600, 800?). I have sold alot of these (although I haven’t given anyone a bargain like it sounds like you got!) and I want to get some feedback before I buy one, although most employees here buy Kingsdown because they are usually the best.
admin says:
May 7, 2009 at 11:59 am

We got the 200 series, which is really perfect for our needs. The 400, 600 and 800 (as you know) just get better and better. Unfortunately, the price doesn’t.

After a few nights on the Kingsdown Sleep to Live 200 series, I can report that it was a good purchase. Very comfortable.
M says:
May 11, 2009 at 2:42 pm

Thanks for the info! I think I’m gonna go with the 600 😛
Kelly says:
May 20, 2009 at 9:23 pm

Very pleased and excited about the amazing deal we got on out Kings 600 from Sleepy’s!!!
Totalpckge says:
May 26, 2009 at 11:41 pm

Is $2100 for a 600 model queen with a frame, delivery and taxes sound like a good deal?
Sierra Tango says:
May 29, 2009 at 2:40 pm

Would you be willing to give me an idea of how much you spent on the 200 series in a king size?
Ron says:
June 4, 2009 at 5:09 pm

What color 200 series did get, and was it on both sides.
wade says:
June 4, 2009 at 5:14 pm

I got a king size sleep to live for $1612. i bargained for about an hour.
admin says:
June 4, 2009 at 5:19 pm

We got a king size set…blue on both sides. We also got delivery, the frame for half price and a sheet set for half price.
admin says:
June 4, 2009 at 5:20 pm

I think $2100 for a king set, delivery and taxes is a good deal. Not sure about the queen set.
dave says:
June 9, 2009 at 10:43 pm

If anyone is buying a mattress from sleepy`s you should be able to get delivery,frame ,and sheets for free. I used to work for them and I know how they operate. They are like used car salesman. That is part of their training. Just negotiate a price..should be a least a 1,000 off the more expensive beds, such as kingsdown and then tell them you want the delivery and the frame included. If they say no, then tell them you need to go shop around and see if you can get a better deal but you might be back. They won`t let you leave and you`ll get what you want. If they let you leave, they will call you back with a better deal. Trust me, you have to deal with them like you would buying a used car. Most people don`t know how much mattresses are marked up and what kind of deal you can bargain for.It`s just like buying a car. Jus ttell them you want to shop around and be prepared to do so.
Watch-out-4-Sleepy’s says:
June 16, 2009 at 7:38 pm

Brought a Kingsdown mattress set from Sleepy’s. It will start to sag in less than 3 years. BUY A MATTRESS COVER!! They will try to void the warrenty for any little stain on the mattress.
claudia says:
June 17, 2009 at 9:00 pm

I have read this line:

“We slept on it last night and I think it was nice. I can’t get past the part of how I feel like I don’t deserve to be laying on something so nice. I probably don’t deserve it; no one does.”

over and over again… can’t stop laughing!! LOL!!

my husband and i tried one out tonight (800 series).. it sort of changes you, it’s crazy… crazy.

still laughing, Claudia
Gary says:
June 23, 2009 at 9:53 pm

Can anyone tell me what they paid for the Sleep To Live 600 Series King size at Sleepy’s?

The sales guy started me at $3900 w/ tax, delivery and frame.
Adam says:
July 5, 2009 at 7:52 pm

I just stopped in at Sleepys today too. They quoted around 3900 for a Sleep to Live Series 600. This is about $1900 more than i want to spent. Do you guys think they will negotiate the price that low?
al says:
July 6, 2009 at 11:36 am

I just paid $3200 for a king 600 series with tax/del/frame/and mattress pad
Adam says:
July 8, 2009 at 7:40 pm

I went with the Series 400 king with tax/del/frame for $2377. Not to bad seeing that we started at 3160.
james says:
July 12, 2009 at 6:37 pm

It is very true that the mattress industry is pretty flexible. When i bought my bed from sleepys, i haggled down to get 2 pillows for the price of one, a free mat protector(not the cheap one) and a frame. I have to say that i absolutely love my sleep to live bed, i have had it for over 3 years now and recommend them to all my friends. the ones that have spent the money have not regretted it at all. I have a herniated disc in my back and this bed has given me so much relief.
gjorg says:
July 14, 2009 at 6:07 pm

Apparently you have not worked for them for awhile. Things change.
gjorg says:
July 14, 2009 at 6:14 pm

In the original post you said Sleepys is not selling too many mattresses these days! Are you thinking of a bad economy? They will sell over 250,000 of these STL beds alone this year and that’s not counting all of the other brands they carry.Their business is booming.
admin says:
July 14, 2009 at 6:25 pm

Yes, I think I was basing that assumption on the bad economy, but also the fact that we were the only people (2 of us) in the entire store for about a two hour span on a Saturday. To me, that wouldn’t suggest booming business.

But hey, if you say so.
Jeff says:
July 17, 2009 at 7:47 am

Me and my girlfriend just bought a King size Kingsdown 400 series for $1000, with frame, head and footboards, and delivery came to 1375… Think we got an awesome deal, however, ive read some BAD stuff on this bed and company..Any input?
gjorg says:
August 19, 2009 at 11:22 pm

Someone recently posted that they bought a STL three years ago. Funny they just went into production this year. As far as getting a bargain at sleepys, they tend to tailor it for you. Need a frame they will get you one if not trade for something you do need. NOTHING in life is free, You got it included for the price! People are afraid to spend what they think is a lot of money for fear of getting ripped off. Calculate what your cell phone is going to cost over the next 15 years. If you saw an Iphone with a 17,500 dollar price tag would you consider buying it? Thats about what it will cost for 15 years at todays prices.The furniture industry destroyed credibility with their 399 and 499 sofas. That should be your sales tax on a good sofa.
gjorg says:
August 19, 2009 at 11:25 pm

Jeff by the way you are lying. Thats what I mean about sites where anyone can say anything.
Plus you bought a bed that you heard bad things about but purchased anyway? Prove it and I will buy it for you.
Mike says:
August 24, 2009 at 3:41 pm

what did you pay!? I’m getting the same bed – it’s amazing…but in a Queen. Sticker price $2,500…
Joe says:
August 25, 2009 at 9:50 pm

I got a quote from Sleepy’s on the Sleep to Live 600 Series Blue King with low-profile box springs for $3,449.99. I think I can do better. I called out west to SitnSleep and received a quote of $3,099.99 for the same exact set. I guess it’s back to Sleepy’s for some haggling.
nef says:
August 30, 2009 at 11:15 pm

Sleepys quote for us the Sleep to live 800 series queen size 3300$ set, with time life warranty, 2 latex pillows, and a matress protector . We don’t want to spend more than 3000$.We’ll try to negotiate and would like to have some customer feedback about this matress. Thanks
patti silva says:
August 31, 2009 at 4:06 pm

I just bought a sleep to live, king size mattress and boxspring, along with 2 pillows. The total was just over 2700. After reading this blog I kinda feel jipped. Did I pay way too much? Didnt realize you could bargain with a mattress price…
TP123 says:
August 31, 2009 at 5:49 pm

ellen says:
September 3, 2009 at 8:06 am

I have a STL king 600 due to be delivered Saturday. I also bought that mattress protector for $129 b/c they said if ANY stains are on mattress for 10 yrs they will replace mattress if they can’t get stain out. also ordered their Sleeps foam pillow for $69. I’m thinking of cancelling pad & pillow. Anyone get that pillow & pad??????????
ellen says:
September 3, 2009 at 8:10 am

JAMES— Have you really had the STL for 3 years?????? I have mine being delivered in 2 days & I am really beginning to get concerned after reading lots of negative comments. I know recently there was some sort of “split” with Kingsdown & STL.

Anyone else have their STL for awhile??
Don says:
September 8, 2009 at 4:31 pm

My wife and I just bought our STL 400 (red/green) from Sleepy’s 2 days ago….. yes, it was like going to a car dealership. There was a Labor Day sale going on, and I can’t imagine anyone paying (or them ever selling) those mattresses at the “original price”. We paid about $2,200 for a King Sized set with cover, frame, delivery. And, come to find out that our bed’s old frame was fine, so they took the frame and credited us $100 for a frame we didn’t pay for to begin with. As soon as we entered the store the salesman started with the STL pitch, machine, etc… Come to think of it, I don’t even know what other mattresses they sell…… so when he was all done and told me the price, I said – “No way can we afford that” And that’s when he started lowering the sale price – even making calls to “his boss”. Who knows, he might have been calling to nowhere – or someone sitting in the back room laughing and saying “sure” to everything.
Anyhow, other than the wife snoring……. a much better nights’ sleep. I was waking up with such back pain that it would take me a good 15 min. to “straighten up” and be able to walk, bend, etc. normally. It’s only been 1 day, but so far, so good! Now, this bed comes with a 20 year warranty….will the company even be around then??
Joe says:
September 21, 2009 at 7:56 pm

After alot of negotiating I was able to get that King STL 600 series Blue/Green along with box springs, mattress pad, 600 thread count sheets and two pillows, all in including tax came to $2,500. Originally it all was going to be around $4,500.
alina says:
September 22, 2009 at 7:59 pm

We just got our king size sleep to live 800 series today. We got the 2 latex pillow, 600 thread count sheets, mattress protector, delivery, tax included and free disposal of our old mattress for $3000. I wonder if I could have gotten a better deal?….lol.

I tried this mattress out for awhile bfroe buying it, my mom bought one in her guest room. I loved it and had to get one as well
Len says:
October 1, 2009 at 11:41 am

I work for Sleepy’s and I find most people on here exaggerating their savings. king 800 $4500 k600 $4000 k400 $2800 k200 $2400. We will negotiate a little, but I have no idea why we do. We are the only ones with this incredible bed. Everyone loves it!
Joe says:
October 2, 2009 at 10:51 pm

Len, I speak the truth when I say I got the 600, boxsprings, pillows, sheets, and mattress protector including taxes for $2,500.
J says:
October 8, 2009 at 10:16 pm

I just bought one of these beds, delivery is on Sunday. I only got the queen 400 series (blue) mattress, a bunky board (we have a platform bed, but we would only get a 5 year warranty without some type of “support”), and the mattress pad to prevent spills for $1450 or something. It claims a savings of $760. I thought that was a reasonable savings. The bed felt like a dream, I mean, I would have loved the 600 series, but the 400 was a nice compromise. The guy said he was able to give us a deal because they had extra stock of that bed. I’m hoping the bed feels as great in our home!
cindy says:
October 11, 2009 at 5:53 pm

Joe and Alina hwere did you but your beds and what state do you live in. I got a price for a STL 800 King with delivery, sheets, mattress cover frame and pillows for 3399 and want to make sure i’m getting a good deal.
mean guy says:
October 12, 2009 at 8:19 pm

I just bought the Sleepy’s queen 600 series bed, shipping, and frame for 2200.00 at the one of sleepy’s stores. Is this a good deal, I do not know, seemed too easy?
jill says:
October 19, 2009 at 11:25 pm

I’m considering a Queen 200 series Green STL bed. I fell in love with it in the store, but the internet reviews I’m reading now have me a bit spooked. Seems like anyone who’s had it for more than a year ends up with a mountain range in the middle and Death Valley to both sides. I’ve got serious back and neck pain issues, with some hip pain thrown in that I’m fairly certain is due to my current bed… not looking to exacerbate things with a $1700 mistake. Help!!!!
Troy says:
October 22, 2009 at 7:49 pm

I just purchased a blue 600 set for $899. Yes, it’s new.
SALB51 says:
October 23, 2009 at 7:37 pm

Troy would you mind telling what size and where did you purchase it? I’m looking for king size blue 600 series. Thanks.
SALB51 says:
October 25, 2009 at 1:49 pm

Just got back from Sleeps here in NY and got a price quote of $ 2792.00 for a King size 600 series set including delivery, tax and possibly 2 king size latex pillows. I’ve been trying the past few days to get a better price but with no success. From reading this blog other King size 600 series have sold for less(admin, Joe and Troy). Would you mind letting me know what state you are in? Thanks.
liz says:
October 26, 2009 at 9:27 pm

I just purchase the 800 blue king with sheets, cover, frame,delivery and taxes for $3500
Stephanie says:
October 26, 2009 at 11:40 pm

This past Saturday my bf and I purchased a queen kingstown that has his side a litter firmer than mine. I fibromyalgia and arthritis in the hips and spent a good bit of time going from mattress to mattress and I found the one we bought to relieve me of pressure on my muscles. I don’t know what to think after all the negative reviews I have been seeing. I was told that this bed came highly recommended for people with arthritis and fibromyalgia like myself. Have I been suckered. I tried other mattresses like sealy and serta and temperpedic and they hurt instantly. ITs’ alot of money to have it sag over a couple of years.
Help. It’s not being delivered until the 7th.
Joe says:
October 30, 2009 at 8:14 pm

Cindy, I am located outside of Phila near Valley Forge, PA
Carol says:
October 30, 2009 at 11:29 pm

I just got the 600 series here in Queens,NY for $3300 with free frame and 2 goose down pillows. They would not give me the sheets (they said that deal was for other mattress brand) nor free shipping. But I did finance for 3 years no interest.
TJ says:
November 2, 2009 at 1:59 pm

Just got a STL King 400 Blue/Green, delivery, box spring, heavy duty frame, waterproof mattress cover (for the baby, not me :-) ) for $2299.99

Sounds like I could have negotiated a little more but just didn’t have the patience. Like the mattress alot so far

I guess only time will tell if it sags….

The whole sales experience was shady, but I don’t think I’ve ever had anything but shady when buying a mattress.
Ellie says:
November 9, 2009 at 10:24 pm

Hi I did put a deposit for a 800 series dreen and blue. I did get a deal for $3700 including 2 latex pillows, frame, tax, delivery. I should go back and negotiate for the sheets and matress cover. What do you, sleepy`s previous employees think?
Please let me know,
Edi says:
November 9, 2009 at 10:28 pm

hi i just got the stl 800 series for $2000.
it included 2 latex pillows, frame, sheets, mattress cover, delivery, tax at sleepy’s. let me know if i got a good deal,
Paul says:
November 11, 2009 at 6:55 pm

It would certainly be helpful if everyone included the stl series, size & price to gauge where sleepys will actually sell. Sounds like the 600 king goes for 2500-2800 all in(Joe & Salb51) which is what I am in the market for. Thank you all for the insight.
Marc says:
November 15, 2009 at 11:05 pm

I just bought a 400 series STL Kingsdown mattress, queen size, personalized (wife side steel, husband side royal). I paid 2,200 for the mattress, delivery, 10-year warranty mattress cover and taxes. It has not been delivered yet. I got it from MattressFirm in Jacksonville, Florida. I guess I could had bargained for it, but I didn’t. It supposedly was reduced $300 dollars already and we got the cover for free. I am starting to get scared with some of the reviews I’ve seen. I can’t wait to get it.
jenne says:
November 16, 2009 at 9:53 am

great price for mattress, what store did you get it at, and what size is it?
Pat says:
November 21, 2009 at 4:02 pm

Hi all, I just bought a queen size STL 200 Series Blue. I paid $1800 with delivery and the mattress pad. I already had a good frame. I am comfortable with what I paid, but I am concerned with the reports I’ve read about the bed sagging over time, and causing pain rather than easing it. I have 30 days to exchange it at Sleepy’s for something “of equal or greater value,” so I would like to hear more from people who’ve had their STL beds for a considerable time period. Also, I have wondered about the whole concept of the bed conforming to my body. It seems to me that if the bed does this, then I would somewhat be forced to sleep in the same general position all the time. I guess I do this already, but what happens when you rotate the mattress, as suggested? Like I said, I’m OK with what I paid, but only if it’s really going to last the 15 years that the warranty covers. I would love to hear others’ experience and thoughts on this. Thanks!
Dileep says:
November 30, 2009 at 12:22 pm

We just bought a Series 400 STL for $1700 including taxes and delivery. I thought I was getting ripped-off because we have never bought a luxury mattress (always bought a foam mattress for $400 or so at Ikea)but maybe I did get a good deal.It has not been delivered yet so no comments about sleep quality – it did feel great in the store.
Zeus says:
December 9, 2009 at 1:01 pm

These sleep to lives are a one sided mattress, so you no longer have to flip them over.
Do you still have to rotate the bed and if so, if you have two different firmnesses blue/green then your partners and you would have to switch sides when you rotated the bed as well correct??
Meegan says:
December 31, 2009 at 10:30 pm

My husband and I bought the 800 tan/green. We’ve had it for about 2 months and absolutely hate it! I have never had back problems and every morning, I wake up in pain. My husband feels the same way. The ticket price was over 4,000 but we got it for 3,000 – what a juge mark up! We did not get the sheets/frame or anything else included in that price. Since my husband sells mattress protectors in his store, we did not buy one but I highly recommend it since the company will void the warrenty if there are any stains on the mattress. I do not reccommend this mattress – it feels great in the store but after sleeping on it for a month, it feels horrible!
reply says:
January 3, 2010 at 4:58 pm

Stains on the mat is not sleepys rule that is an osha rule, would u like to be person to have to pick up a stained mat from someones house not knowing what it is
Tyler says:
January 7, 2010 at 9:45 pm

Well looks like its a good thing I waited a week for delivery, ordered a 600 series last Sunday stoped in on a whim old matress not holding up from Pilgrim furniture has been replaced twice in four years will not warranty again Englaner is no longer aviable gee wonder why. Anyway thought I was getting something wow two pillows and free delivery 4k total after seing this there is no way I will let them in the door time to go see the manager again tomorrow better loose 1K or I will just shop Sleepys until one makes a deal they are like everywhere these days!
Bob Smith says:
January 7, 2010 at 10:56 pm

It’s actually “lose.” Better to “lose” 1k or I will just shop Sleepys…

Richard Berg says:
January 22, 2010 at 1:04 am

Count me in as a new Sleep To Live (aka Kingsdown) owner. Picked up a queen-size 400 series blue for a little over $1700 including box spring, upgraded cover (w/ stain warranty), delivery, and sales tax. Spent almost 2hr in Sleepy’s — staying >1hr past closing — so I didn’t rag the salesman too hard. Only about 5min of actual price negotiation. Probably could have shaved off another C-note or two but I’m happy regardless. I did try every mattress in the store, as well as every mattress at a flagship Macy’s, so I feel pretty comfortable assessing its value (to me) even though I skipped my usual process of intense internet investigation.
Richard Berg says:
January 22, 2010 at 1:05 am

As far as people doubting that screaming deals are out there, you just have to be in the right place at the right time, and/or very patient.
Sam says:
January 24, 2010 at 10:38 pm

Just got a STL 600 (Green) Queen Size for 1400.
No box spring. They did throw in 2 “I Love My Pillows” though. Think we got a pretty good deal. We will see how I sleep tonight though…
Ethan says:
January 28, 2010 at 9:43 pm

Here’s what I ordered tonight in Boston, MA.

Sleep-to-Live (STL) 600 series Blue Queen Set
600/800 series Queen box $566
600 Blue Queen Mattress $1320
Queen Mattress protector Free
Delivery $70
MA Tax $118
Total $2,075

I’d appreciate any advice or comments. Not sure about quality based on what I’ve read.
Ethan says:
January 30, 2010 at 2:28 pm

Regarding my posting on 1/28/2010. I ordered a
Sleep-to-Live (STL) 600 series Blue Queen Set
600/800 series Queen box
600 Blue Queen Mattress
Queen Mattress protector

Called the store the next day asking to cancel my order, they knocked another $575 off the price. Final price $1500. Not sure what to make of this. Now I’m wondering what the real value of this bed is. Seems like the lowest price I’ve seen posted for this mattress. Please comment if you have any related experiences.

How often do the posts get moderated? My previous post has yet to be moderated?
Chris says:
January 30, 2010 at 7:47 pm


I too purchased a STL king 800 series, with mattress pad, and frame two weeks ago….are you sitting down? $4,500. I live in NY. I was told by the salesperson there was no discounting. I had just planned to go “looking”. The bed was a dream to lay on….I came home…and started reading the many negative reviews and promptly cancelled my order. I have been offered another 10% off to employee discounts in the last couple of weeks since cancelling. I am curious, and I have a friend who is going to check this out for me tomorrow ( if she isn’t hampered by the snow!) the STL mattress company is in mebane, NC she lives near by. She is going to a local store to get prices for me…tho’ I’m still too confused now to buy any mattress. I’ll let you know what $$ she was quoted.
Ethan says:
January 31, 2010 at 2:39 pm

I got he STL600 mattress and box spring delivered yesterday. While the mattress did have a slight chemical smell, I am nearly certain this will go away with time, as any latex material (contained in the built in mattress pad) will have some volatiles for some time. I plan to just air it out. The delivery men mentioned that, while they have had people return other mattresses from Sleepy’s including the tempurpedic brand, they have not had anyone return a sleep to live mattress. I found this a bit reassuring. With regard to Chris’ posting on 1/30/2010, my recommendation would be to negotiate strongly. Don’t even bother going to the store, just call them and make the salesman work for you. They have 2 year 0% financing, which I would highly recommend taking advantage of. High-end mattresses are not moving in this economy and they have a large inventory. STL is made by Kingsdown, who have mattresses in other stores such as Mattress Giant. Kingsdown has been making mattresses for a long time and have a good reputation. I would recommend getting both mattress and box spring as this extend the warranty to life time. I’ve spent the last week researching mattresses and shopping around a lot for them, I think the deal I got for $1,500 for both mattress and box spring is a good one, but I bet I could have perhaps even gotten it cheaper had I known what I know now. Please use this info as a starting point. I hope others get even a better deal. Consumers should post the exact prices they pay to help drive prices down, help move inventory.
Liz says:
February 1, 2010 at 7:59 pm

I visited Sleepy’s in Manhattan in March 2009 to exchange a defected mattress I purchased in Feb 2008 (it was a Stearns & Foster). Because I had a warranty claim, I was now using Sleepy’s credit to buy the new bed. We decided to upgrade (more$) to a STL King Size Tan/Blue. We didn’t try to negotiate, since I thought they wouldn’t because we were paying with a credit, we really should have. The STL 600 cost us $2,519 for the mattress, $540 for each boxspring, $309.04 in taxes and $89.99 for delivery, for a Grand Total of $3,999.02! That was last March 2009. I’ve had the STL for 10 months and it started sagging at about 8 months. I contacted Sleepy’s warranty department, they sent a mattress inspector to check if the sagging met warranty thresholds, and indeed it did. So now we have been given another store credit. But this time only for the mattress, as the box spring was not deemed defective. I went to a Sleepy’s in Manhattan yesterday 1/31/10 to check new beds. The 600 that I bought 1 year ago is now $3,219! They said that though my credit is for $2,519, they would honor an “even exchange”. But now we want the 800L which costs ~$4,519 for the mattress alone. And if I want to upgrade to the 800L, I would have to fork up another $2,000. Ridiculous. Any thoughts? Thanks!
admin says:
February 1, 2010 at 10:26 pm

I am going to have to chime in here.

Okay, looking over the comments on this post gives me a bit of concern. The amounts being spent for beds has really gotten out of control. The person who wrote the last comment gave a price of $4,519 for a mattress. Seriously?

Here is my humble opinion. Unless you have 5 million sitting in some bank account somewhere, spending that much money on a mattress is just flat out wrong. Wrong on so many levels.

As I wrote in one of the early comments, we purchased the 200 series. For those of you who don’t know this, that is the least expensive level of mattress. I think we spent around $1,800 for the whole setup. I felt that price was seriously too high. Not only for this brand of bed, but for beds in general.

I really hope I don’t come off as some lecturer here, but since when did people get this type of money to be spending on beds?

These mattress companies are laughing all the way to the bank.

Man, sure would be nice to have the type of disposable income that would allow me to spend close to $5,000 for a bed. Ummm…nah, I think I would rather save a little money for retirement someday.
NINA says:
February 2, 2010 at 11:21 am

My boyfriend and I bought a King Blue STL 400 series a couple weeks ago for 1300 from Sleepys…free delivery, free frame, half price mattress pad. Bed delivered was not as firm as the one in the showroom. getting an even exchange tomorrow and another 30 days to try it out. hope it works out good. nightmare to mattress shop!
NINA says:
February 2, 2010 at 11:21 am

Ethan says:
February 3, 2010 at 11:27 pm

How do they determine if the mattress has sagged to the point where it qualifies for warrantied replacement?

Been sleeping on my STL600 Red for 5 days, seems good so far, will post if that changes. The Sleepy’s sleep analysis computer (yeah I know, haa computer sleep optimizer) said I was a Blue, but decided to go for the Red to avoid sagging issues.

I am with the admin on this. I think $1500 is on the verge of insanity for a bed (yes I think I was somewhat crazy for spending this much).

Liz, spending another 2K is a bit crazy. So it a $4,519 price for the 800L. Maybe you can find out if there is a competitor’s comp to the 800L which is less than your credit amount and tell them to price match it, since that is there policy. It just has to be a similar mattress not the same brand, so go to Mattress Giant or whoever and ask them what they have from Kingsdown that is comparable to the STL800 and get a quote. Just a thought.
RL says:
February 12, 2010 at 4:05 pm

I agree, it is silly to spend $4,500 on a mattress. If you have trouble sleeping, spending that much money on a bed is only going to stress you out even more and keep you up longer. Really everyone, even if you have the extra money to lay on, would it not be better spent on something that can help more than 2 people?
Ray says:
February 16, 2010 at 12:00 am

We just bought a “CLEARANCE” STL800 King Size Green/Blue for $1900 plus tax. Included was delivery, sheets, but no frame or box spring. From New York. Not really sure what makes it a clearance, but no one else mentioned whether their mattress was a clearnce or not. By the way, how bad are the reviews about the sagging and on what website? Thanks.
Newbie says:
February 16, 2010 at 10:32 pm


I just purchased a STL Series 200 Blue yesterday. I was shopping since last Monday and drove the sales people crazy, however I didn’t care, I needed to purchase a mattress and nothing was going get in my way. I narrowed it down to two, the one I purchased and another by S&F (which was a Luxury Plus). After reading the posts here, I think I did really well. I paid 1079 for the mattress, split box spring, frame, sheet set, 2 laytex pillows, delivery, take away and mattress cover as well. I purchased a queen size. I was firm or I was walking. It is set to be delivered next week I had to wait for the low profile split boxsprings. I am worried though, I just have this gut feeling, even though this mattress felt the best for me, that the S&F is a better quality mattress and would hold up longer (the sides seemed stronger). I could have had it for the same price…with all included but it was a little firmer that the STL series 200 blue, and I felt more comfy on this sleeping a marshmellow. Also, the salesmen were not pushy, they let me be, they did not push this bed..they just stressed that it is all about less pressure on the bed.

I just also want to say, that no matter what bed or what manufacturer, a pillow top is going to cause problems with sagging, etc. It is, that’s why I stayed away from a pillow top they sag, and get lumpy and the consumers are being told that they are conforming to their bodies, which is what they are supposed to do. By the way, while I was shopping a woman came in who had originally purchased a Miralux pillow top..and exchanged after 6 months for a STL 200 Red because she said there was no sides left to the pillow top of her mattress and she was falling out of bed in the middle of the night..due to rolling off the bed (I am LOL). I wanted a softer feel but not all the problems.

Has anyone here had the 200 series for a while? If so, are the sides of bed ok, I just think the edges are going to collapse, they don’t see very strong. I am nervous about tht, but I do think, compared to most, I got a really good deal. You certainly have to be willing to walk if they don’t do the right thing.

Anyone with the Series 200 blue please let me know what you think as soon as possible, I have a week to decide!

paul says:
February 17, 2010 at 6:04 pm

I want to thank everyone on here.

I consulted this blog & everything on it was true about how slimy & deceptive the sales people are.

I purchased the STL 600 Blue QN mattress only for $1350 which includes tax & delivery in nyc – that is about $1225 for the mattress w/out tax. The sales guy did what everyone said he would & throw pillows, sheets & the set in for $3400 original asking. After saying the price had to come down considerably, i was offered $2300. too high. $2200 at which point i made it clear that $100 increments were not going to get this done. I originally settled for $1800 on the set, but decided to ditch the low profile box spring after seeing them online for ~$200 (mattress ~1200, spring/set ~400, tax ~200).

After calling back the sales guy, and telling him to take the set off my order, he said that they would not sell me just the matress at $1200 (went as far as to say “the break out on the invoice per piece are ARBITRARY”). After settling on $1350, I called their 1-888 number and found that tax was included (now $1460 total), I told them i wanted to cancel my order & they took the tax off.

I sorry for the long winded post, but if you’re to take away anything its push the sales people to a price that they will say no to, then leave the store. if they dont counter, you know to go slightly higher at the next sleepys (there are like 12 in manhattan). I would then call the 1-888 and try to cancel unless they take off the tax (sales guy wont go that far cause it hurts his $$$, the company will go further cause they just want the sale).
Ethan says:
February 19, 2010 at 11:21 am


$1900 sounds reasonable for the King, assuming mattress and box spring. I think you could have shaved off another $100 and the price should have included tax. My guess… It costs them all of $400 to make the mattress and box spring, the rest is pure profit. They are making tons of money.

I would ask that everyone PLEASE write a detailed list of the prices they pay for each component and the added cost of tax and delivery. I am going to be buying another mattress and box spring set, likely a full size Stearns and Foster for my second bedroom and would love to know what people are finding.

Thanks everyone.
Ethan says:
February 19, 2010 at 11:30 am

Does anyone have any advice about buying furniture from La-Z-boy. I have ordered a leather recliner, leather love seat, coffee table by Kincaid, and Kincaid bed from them. I am having issues with their slow/poor delivery and perhaps even quality. If anyone responds to this (not sure this is the best place to write about this), I will elaborate further on the exact issues and prices I’m paying. I still have time to cancel my order. Any advice would be most helpful.
admin says:
February 19, 2010 at 11:36 am

Good point about the cost of making the mattress, but let’s not forget about all the other costs of they encounter, such as:

– Employee pay/commission
– Taxes
– Interest expense (on business loans)
– Rent/mortgage
– Utilities
– Insurance
– Business services (accounting, finance fees)
– Business improvements
– Ambiance (store decorations, etc…)
– Marketing
– Shipping (having the product shipped to this country)

You get the idea. The amount it costs to actually have the mattress made is probably small compared to all the other costs of running the business.
Newbie says:
February 19, 2010 at 12:51 pm

Has anyone ever gotten bed bugs from a new mattress. I am cancelling my order because I am scared to death.

Write back ASAP Please. Mattresses that are stored in Warehouses run the risk of bed bugs. Did you know that? I didn’t. I can’t even begin to tell you how NYC is infested with these Critters. It is probably by far a better bet to order direct from the manufacturer if possible…I hear the facilities are clean (In US of course).
Newbie says:
February 19, 2010 at 12:52 pm

One more thing…Sleepy’s and Macy’s and most big stores haul out the old mattresses on the same truck as the new mattresses are coming to you from! Horrible.
Ethan says:
February 19, 2010 at 2:27 pm

LOL. While my $400 estimate was just that, an estimate, I actually think it was inclusive of all these additional costs. I think the actual material cost and labor to make the mattress and box spring is around $200 (accounting economy of scale). From what I understand from talking to people at Gardner mattress, who actually hand make their mattresses in MA, machine made mattresses (like the one’s made by Kingsdown), are made in under 2-3 minutes.

I understand they need to make a profit, and have no problem with that. The real question is what is the actual value for what you are paying and what is the mark up? If it is, say around $200, then are likely making a profit of upwards of 800%-1000% on each. Unless I’m off by a factor of 10, I think they are making plenty of money. Would be interested to hear from a real insider.
admin says:
February 19, 2010 at 2:33 pm

Agreed. I would have to say that it is a bit shady when a company can swing their prices 10, 20, 30% + within a few moments of negotiating.

It’s sort of like the jewelry, perfume and spice industries. Talk about markup.
Sue says:
April 6, 2010 at 8:22 pm

I own the 400 series. Best bed I’ve ever owned!!! I sleep like a baby!!! Best decision that I’ve ever made, paid $2199 free delivery and pillows. All of the negative reviews out there, overlook them. Everyone is different. What might be perfect for me, might not be perfect for you. Do the comfort test thingy, it works!!!
kim says:
April 7, 2010 at 11:02 pm

Sue, How long have you had your STL 400?
Christan says:
May 24, 2010 at 7:05 pm

I just got my 200 Queen and totally paid full price. Who knew you could haggle on a mattress? I hate doing that, by the way. I just need to know what price is the real price and not play some mind game/who has the bigger appendage/write a number on a piece of paper slide it across the desk dance with the sales dude. Stresses me out.

Tonight is the first night.
charisse says:
May 30, 2010 at 11:14 am

we are looking at the sfl bed and have been quoted for $4500 just for the matress in king… matress firm company.. where did you get your k800 at 2500?
Ed says:
May 30, 2010 at 10:26 pm

I have a question for the Admin. Its been over a year. How are you liking the 200 Series now?

Fiance and I are looking at getting the 400 Series Queen (green/blue), and the local Art Van here in michigan is offering it for $1450 for the set with 50 months no interest.

I hear so many mixed feelings on this bed, just thought id check in and see how you liked yours. But im aware you can get mixed reviews on any bed.

admin says:
May 30, 2010 at 11:29 pm

Yes, it’s true. We have been sleeping on the 200 series for over a year. We have mixed reviews.

I believe “she” finds it very satisfying. It’s true, her side is nice. But she doesn’t have the same body style as I do. She’s a heck of a lot lighter than me. I don’t think her side has changed much from the day we bought the mattress. (By the way, I’m 6’3″ and 185lbs.)

Now my side is a different story. It began to sag a few months in. I had to place a folded up towel under the mattress to boost it up. That seems to work.

Listen, all mattresses are going to sag. They are all going to sag a few months in too. That’s why I keep saying not to finance a mattress and don’t spend a lot of money on the better models. Go cheap. Even the most expensive mattress is going to sag. The more you pay, the more you are going to feel the pain of lost money.

I sure wouldn’t want to be paying off a mattress for 50 months when I had to put a folded up towel under it just a few months in.

Mattresses are NOT investments. They are expenses that disappear over time. My face gets red when I see that people want to spend over $4500 on a mattress.

We have a $500 queen size mattress that we have in the guest room. That one feels great and we slept on that for about two years. It’s a cheap no name model.
Christan says:
June 1, 2010 at 2:30 pm

My update:

The ‘green’ 200 series was just too damn soft and I took advantage of Sleepy’s are-you-comfortable? return policy.

This also happened to be during the start of their Memorial Day Weekend Sale so the difference to upgrade one firmness level (Blue) and to the 600 series was somewhat digestible.

I wiggled the guy down a little and they halved the return fee and delivered the second set for free.

Tonight is the second first night.

Dennis says:
June 1, 2010 at 9:36 pm

Does anyone have any info on the sleep to live 100 series? I just bought a blue 100 series and its a very comfortable bed. But im a little nervous because i see all the other series but the 100. I think its the most basic model. I paid $800 for the mattress and $300 for the box spring plus mattress protector for another $1oo and bed frame for $70 plus taxes and delivery paid around $1480 and now after reading all the comments I wish I would have negotiated. I think I could have gotten a better deal. I also received two free sheet sets> Joy. Let me know if any of you heard of the 100 series.
Ethan says:
June 4, 2010 at 6:09 pm

I came back here to read what people wrote after I wrote my posts a at the beginning of the year. I bought the STL 600 queen mattress and box spring for $1500 total including tax. It wasn’t on sale or clearance. I still think I paid way too much. I haven’t had much in the way of sagging thus far. I highly recommend that every single person who buys a bed to not have it delivered for several day at least and then call to cancel your order the day before it is supposed to arrive. Then when they ask why, say it was over your budget and then when they ask what your budget is drop it by at least 25%. If they say anything but 25% less, say no I can’t afford that and that you want to cancel your order immediately. Trust me they will cave they want the sale, plus if they loaded it onto a truck they don’t want to bother unloading it. If they don’t who cares, just go to another Sleepy’s and order it the same bed again and start all over again.
Thomas says:
June 14, 2010 at 12:13 am


I have no idea how good they are, but I know I have been offered at TWO different Sleepy’s to buy these mattresses at around 40% of the sticker price. If you are paying full price, you are out of your mind!

These mattress salespeople are total slimeballs… mattresses should be sold at a fair price, they are something everyone needs to have! Stop paying full price and start complaining about these outrageous sales tactics… fair consumerism should be DEMANDED.

admin says:
June 14, 2010 at 10:06 am

You know, no one is telling you to go ahead and buy the mattresses that are thousands of dollars. There is a nice selection of mattresses for about $300 in the back. Being able to buy a super-luxury mattress isn’t a “right.” If you have the money to throw out the window, then go ahead.

I’m sure there is a good population of this world out there sleeping on thin pieces of garbage and even on the floor. I’m not sure how far you are going to get by complaining that it “just isn’t fair” how it’s too expensive to sleep on a mattress that costs $4000.

I just looked over at 1800mattress and saw a twin size mattress starting at $99.99. There you go. There’s your mattress.
Mat says:
June 25, 2010 at 6:50 pm

if you want to negotiate you should, but how far the salesperson can negotiate now depends on supply in their warehouse and believe it or not the population in your area hence New Yorkers and Californians pay less. If the store has more stcok than they sell it for less. If they have little stock they will hold price. If the populations is higher and they see more customers they can make up the loss by selling more units. Finding a fair price is hard due to the above facts and also because there needs to be a sufficient profit margin to make the sale worth while. If everybody saved 40% than the company would go out of business. So to balance margin some customers may save 40% while others may only save 10%. Many people see that as unfair or shady, but the business must pay it’s bills. A long time ago the manufacturers used to set prices, this assured that the manufacturer and retailer alike made fair profit for their investment of time. In the 70′s the government made that practice illegal. That is why stores have to compete in the way they do. Everybody wants to get their merchandise at the same cost a retailer gets it for.Keep in mind that you do have a human being selling you this bed. The salesperson you meet is not paid for being there, they only get paid I’f they sell. If you play those games where you threaten to walk if they don’t discount further you can sometimes take the complete commission from the salesman. Meaning they gave you 3 hours time and got nothing in return. Eventually by everybody searching for the absolute lowest price the brick and mortar stores go bankrupt and then all you have left is the internet.
Rich says:
June 28, 2010 at 10:12 am

I just got done haggling with my local Sleepys for a Kingdown series 400. I got the box springs, mattress (king), protector sheet and basic $100 frame all for $1500. This is how I did it:
They were having a sale on their Sealys brand for half off so my wife put down a $25 refundable deposit on that while I was at work, (they call it the spouse’s approval deposit or something). Then when I went with her to approve it, since I would be paying for it. I had her lay on the kingsdown 200 series, which she liked better, then the 400 series which she liked even better. Since she has sleeping issues with the bed we have now because of it sagging (its 15 yrs old) I told her that I would get the queen 400 instead, which we had the frame for already from the old bed. The sales person said they could cut us a deal by speaking with the district manager. So this $2100 bed was immediately cut down to $1792, I believe. The sales person said in a way way eager voice “Can we ship this and count on you to finance this today?!” I told her I was going to go home and do some research first. Immediately, in an even more egger voice she said “Well WAIT! Let me see if I can get it to you for a better price.” She called the district manager again and then got a price of $1528.99. I said wow thanks, and thought to myself “wow this is like a used car lot.”
I then found this blog and saw post 28 by Jeff , stating that they got theirs for $1375. At first I doubted this a little. Then I went back to Sleepys and pulled the post up on my phone because the sales person there claimed they didn’t get internet access other than when I told her that someone online said they got theirs for under $1400. After seeing this she got the same district manager on the phone that the fist sales person I had spoke to the first time got, Tom. She told him what I wanted and then handed the phone to me. Tom told me what I thought he would say “Anyone can post anything on line and they do this to post bad reviews and post bad pricing to try to make us sound dishonest” or something to that extent. I told him I would have to think about it.
So a day later I went in and the original sales person was there. I said listen, I want a king 400 series, box springs, a mat protector and a frame for $1500 or give me a receipt of you crediting $25 back to my wife’s Credit card. She skipped the district manager and called a regional manager and I and told them the deal. She then said to the regional manager, “I think he either wants it for $1500 or he wants his money back and he is done with negotiating.” She then turned to me and said ” is that right?” I said “your dam right.” She then said to the manager, in a very low voice, “so what code do I put in?” To those of you who don’t know the sales people on the floor need a code to put in to lower the cost of the bed if it is below the list price. If it is below what the district manager is approved for they have to call the regional manager. I now am picking up my king 400 series, with a mat protector, frame and box springs for $1500, less than just the queen mattress deal they were going to give us originally.
They way in which these people do business is dishonest and I believe walking on the line of illegal to what the last person stated. But I am no legal graduate rather I.T. /business. So maybe you guys want to at least show the sales person this blog when you try to get that Kingsdown for a RESONABLE PRICE instead of bending over for it…
Ethan says:
July 14, 2010 at 5:18 pm

I love to keep checking back on this blog. Way to go Rich, sounds like you got a slightly better deal than I did. Trust me, the sales person isn’t letting anything out of the store that he doesn’t get a commission on. If you feel bad about taking their time to low ball them, then go during the weekday when there is no one in the store and they are just sitting there. Sure you can find something for $100 to sleep on , but that’s not the point. The point is to pay for the value of the item, which is still many fold less than what you pay.
admin says:
July 14, 2010 at 5:23 pm

And I love that you visit this blog. The way I think of it is that any debate is good debate.

You made a good point about the stores being empty during the week. Now that I think about it, I rarely see any customers in mattress stores at all. All I see is a lonely sales guy in the back with his feet up on the desk. I think a nice high pressure negotiation would be welcomed.
Funnysocks says:
July 20, 2010 at 8:05 pm

I just got the 400 series green for 1200 including shipping, tax and frame. I think I did ok. It arrives friday I hope it’s worth it!
Rich says:
July 27, 2010 at 10:19 am

Just an update, the series 400 is totally worth it. My wife loves it an sleeps much better now.
Kerry says:
August 7, 2010 at 5:04 pm

We just bought a King, Blue 400 series, frame, delivery and tax included for $2200. Is this a good deal?
David says:
August 11, 2010 at 12:40 am

Just purchased the 800 tan and green with a 500 thread count mattress protector for $597. Yes 597. I didn’t need a box spring and the mattress was in clearance. I threw it on top of my car and drove it home. It was at sleepys in nanuet,ny.
So far it’s comfortable. I’ll let you know more in the future. Nice blog. I read every one.
Suu says:
August 15, 2010 at 2:40 pm

I got Sleep To Live 200 Series King size with $1225? Is it ok? It just is delivered to my house tonight. I read so many negative make me worry
Bedlover says:
August 17, 2010 at 10:11 am

OK I just was just bed shopping and got a quote from Sleepy’s for a King 600 Series Blue for $2700, is this a good price – seems to be. Includes, mattress, low profile box spring, frame, delivery, 2 pillows and a mattress pad. (Sticker was $4K)

I came on here to read reviews and found this site, lol! Great to read what everyone paid but I want to heard if you love your bed or not!
bcb says:
August 18, 2010 at 8:48 am

I almost paid $1900 for a 400 Series blue/blue Sleep to Live mattress at Sleepy’s this weekend. On a whim I did a search on craigslist for mattresses and I’m glad I did!

There’s a liquidation dealer called chestertown antique that has a huge mattress business ( in Maryland. They sell the 800 series for $995, and the 400 series go for $595 plus another $150 for the box spring. They deliver to the local areas – DC/Annapolis/Western Maryland, not sure if they do any type of shipping or not. But they are one heck of a lot cheaper than buying from Sleepy’s!
Scott says:
August 20, 2010 at 4:14 pm

I just purchased a Sleep To Live, Blue King size mattress for $1650. This came with the frame, bed protector AND a free sleepy’s memory foam pillow. The salesmen said he had a good week, and that he would give me the lowest price he could. He had to call the manager to type in a code or something to put the sale through. I was in another store a few months before that, and they quoted me 2200 for the bed. Who knows how they work the prices.
Daisy says:
August 31, 2010 at 11:03 pm

I am SO happy I found this blog! My fiance and I just went to Sleepy’s earlier today and I left there feeling really unsure. We tested out a few mattresses and the sales guy came over and told us that he would do an analysis to determine which mattress would be best for us. So, as it turns out, I need a soft mattress (tan) and my fiance falls somewhere in the middle to slightly firm. He showed us all the different series and we both really liked the 800 king. When it came time to negotiate the price, he walked over to his computer and said ” Look at that! I can get you this mattress for $1000 off the regular price!!!” Regular price for this mattress was about $3800. My fiance thought that it was a good deal, but my gut told me that if he could magically shave off 1000k from the price without us asking, he could probably go down even further. It was obvious that he wanted to close the deal right then and there, but I wanted time to do some research first….glad I did!! Seems like a ton of you have negotiated some really good deals on these mattresses and I think I am going to go to another Sleepy’s tomorrow to see what they are willing to do. The price, $2800, was just for the mattress, nothing else included AND he said that there is a delivery charge and a $15 to take away our old mattress when they delivered the new one. Since Labor Day is around the corner, there are tons of sales going on everywhere, so I am going to shop around and see what’s out there before I make a final decision. I keep hearing mixed reviews about the Sleep to Live series , but I have to say, I did like the mattress. Do you think $2800 is a decent price for this mattress? Not sure how to negotiate with these people…..some of them make me feel so uneasy!
Dan says:
September 11, 2010 at 8:26 pm

I ended up paying 1960 dollars for the Series 400 Queen Sleep to Live Series. This includes tax, delivery, frame, and mattress cover. The list price was 2200 dollars and it had 500 dollars off for their Labor Day Sale, solid deal but could have probably gotten about a couple hundred dollars off of that based on the posts I read.
Insomniac says:
September 12, 2010 at 12:31 am

To bcb … seriously? SO glad I found this blog! Spent over an hour in Sleepy’s today, paid WAY too much and have been regretting it ever since. Will cancel tomorrow and make the drive from Annapolis to Chestertown sometime soon. Thanks for the info! And, to admin, thanks for the blog…. LOVE it!
luisa says:
October 4, 2010 at 5:16 pm

Going very nervous reading all these comments. Just bought a STL 600 queen and paid $2500 (including spring box, exchange fees for a bed I was really unhappy with and delivery). Shall I cancel my order? After all it seems that unless you get your STL 600 for around $2000 or less you will get the feel that you overspent. I wanted to do the right thing and not focus so much on the money but on the quality and lasting potential of the mattress itself and I am driving myself crazy now. I know a bed it’s not an investment, everything that is subject to wear and tear it’s really not an investment, still I do not want to go cheap and regret my purchase after few month or years. Please let me know………………
Ethan says:
November 4, 2010 at 4:02 am

Luisa and everyone else who is thinking of buying an STL mattress,

I hope you at least tried to cancel your order and see if you could get them to drop the price another $500-$1000. STL600 with box spring and mattress should be obtainable with tax for under $1500 and mostly likely can even get the whole thing for $1200 if you work at it. They are still making money and they don’t want you spending your money somewhere else, bottom line.

BTW. Its been almost a year and I like the mattress. It is important to rotate it every 4 months or so though to get an even wear.
joann says:
November 8, 2010 at 10:56 am

just recieved a sleep to live kingsdown model 1272 a 1400. set for 598. can you tell me what is inside this mattress and the wear and tear on my body? tag says 60% by product and 40% urethane foam spring unit was sold as memory foam mattress ive 30 days to exchange it i thought it was a good deal until i discovered it was a lie to me sale….. i need help please anyone have answers on weither it is a good mattress as i have bad back problems .
Andrew Platis says:
November 23, 2010 at 7:47 pm

Bought a STL 400 blue 1750.00 Total price with box spring,cover and frame
I have it 3 months now and I have to say this is a very good mattress!! The quality is really top notch and the truthis that I can sleep on my back again without pain! Any questions please ask!
Brian S says:
November 28, 2010 at 2:43 am

Looks like most of the posts are on the East coast. I’m in Ca and just purchased a Cal. King green 500 series STL w/box spring, frame, and the full mattress protector w/2 pillow protectors, delivery and haul away for $1850($1700 for the bed/$150 for the protectors. Looks like the 500 is a west coast model. There were 300, 500, 700, and 800 available but we liked the 500 the best(don’t know what it’s equivalent to out there, but it has a 20 yr warranty). Was stickered @ $3000, bought on “Black Friday” w/ an $1100 “rollback” deal and a $200 internet coupon(supposedly, never saw it). It gets delivered next Sunday……..hope it holds up!!!
Diane says:
December 12, 2010 at 8:59 am

Your shopping experience was so much like mine, except that I needed the bed for me; not for guests. I went to Bedding Barn and shopped there for an hour. My intent was to also shop and then go to 1800-mattress for the actual purchase. After Bedding Barn I went over to Sleepy’s and immediately fell in love with a Laura Ashley mattress. I was already hooked on Sleepy’s because they had the headboard/footboard I wanted that no one else sold except 1800 mattress — and Sleepy’s had it on sale for $70.00 less. I floated back and forth between the Laura Ashley mattress and a Sealy Posturepedic for no less than an hour. The sales woman was very patient.

Then, it happened. Just for giggles, I sprawled on the bed that was just across the way. OMG! There was no comparison. I looked to see who the manufacturer was. I was on a Kingsdown Series 400. The 400 was too far over my budget, so I opted for the 200-green, which I got for the same price that the Laura Ashley was listed for.

My total cost came to $2000 for the footboard/headboard, frame, full-sized mattress, mattress cover, a set of sheets, and a fabulously cushy latex pillow. They had financing through GMC which was 0% interest for 24 months.

I slept on my bed for the first time last night. It was a bit hard, but I am assuming it will soften up over time. After sleeping on a twin bed for nearly 3 years, right now I am just luxuriating over the size.
Maria says:
December 14, 2010 at 10:59 pm

My husband and I just bought a STL King 800 Series Blue bed with two piece box spring at Sleepy’s in NY (Westchester County.) We paid $3,749.99 and they threw in two king firm latex pillows in “for free.” We also opted for the adjustable bed frame and a bed barrier and after all was said and done, including tax and delivery, we paid a whopping $4,376.73. The bed is scheduled for delivery for tomorrow. I just hope the promise of a great night’s sleep becomes a reality for us!!!
admin says:
December 19, 2010 at 4:48 pm

I have a feeling you will get that night’s sleep you are looking for. Update us on how you like it.
paul says:
December 29, 2010 at 10:55 am

I bought a King 600 tan/blue set in Boston, Ma as a xmas gift. I was promised 12/29/10 delivery but delivery date deliberately not printed on invoice. when i called they said not available till jan. 2. No firm delivery date however. When i tried to cancel they said 50% non-refundable deposit. the mattress costs $3999.00. Called corporate willing to throw in the 4 pillows approx. $400.00 for nada. Any suggestions?
craig says:
December 29, 2010 at 8:58 pm

been looking to validate a recent purchase and happened upon this blog. found the feedback helpful and wanted to share some data points for other researchers/buyers etc.. Michigan purchase of Sleep to Live Series 400 King size (advertised price was $2,399) paid $2,038 with their holiday spiff (includes mattress and low profile base). $110 for the waterproof mattress protector. prices include tax and delivery. Take delivery next week. Will share sleeping experience and other feedback later.
Karen says:
January 5, 2011 at 10:05 pm

Wow…just had to brag – went to a clearance store in Omaha, NE and got the series 600 tan/blue king for 499, plus 200 for the box springs!
NICK says:
February 22, 2011 at 11:37 pm

Karen – you obviously bought a used bed for that price or a defective returned bed. Noone sells that bed brand new for that price.
NICK says:
February 22, 2011 at 11:39 pm

I got the king 600 series with 2 king pillows and the mattress pad for 1850 plus tax, delivery is included. Total came to $2,009, lowest price I’ve seen posted anywhere.
Maria says:
February 24, 2011 at 9:00 am

Just checking back in since my last post on 12/14/2010. It has been two months since I got my STL 800 Blue King set and all I can say is, it is AMAZING. I truly love it. My sore shoulders and hips are good as new and I sleep like a baby. It was a huge expenditure but worth every penny — an investment in sleep!
Tony says:
April 23, 2011 at 7:32 am

I’m thinking about getting the King 600 series – red. Can anyone tell me where this color really ranks in firmness or softness?
vmbrown says:
June 23, 2011 at 1:00 am

Just bought a king STL 800 Tan mattress and boxspring for $699 + tax. Pick up tomorrow. Fingers crossed! I hope it is better than this piece of trash Sealy!
KateT says:
February 6, 2012 at 11:52 pm

Okay- I love that so many people have commented on this, however I really wish there were more updates. Is the sagging and buckling as bad as the reviews have said? Do you really
feel like you’re falling down a hill? I just purchased one today a 400 tan/green and now I am literally losing sleep. I think I’m going to cancel tomorrow and “sleep on it” a little longer, or at least have them give me an insane price break. Ahhhhh I hate mattress shopping. I need to stop reading negative reviews because I lived it in the store and all the reviews say you’ll hate it in less than a year.
Stephanie says:
February 20, 2012 at 8:12 pm

Bought the 400 series king mattress, box springs, protector and pillows today for $1280. I’m reading a lot of bad reviews and driving myself crazy! Those of you who have had it a while can you tell me how it’s holding up? Thanks
admin says:
February 20, 2012 at 8:17 pm

It’s holding up fine. After the initial break in period (sagging a bit – like every other mattress on the planet), it’s stopped and it feels good. I put some folded towels under the sagging area to build it back up an inch or so and it’s fine. Don’t worry about it. Just go to sleep.
David says:
March 28, 2012 at 3:21 am

Purchased a floor demo 200 series Sleep to Live mattress for $298. Originally listed in store price was $698. (local mattress discount store) I was shopping for a $299 Queen Set spring mattress special were offering. After laying on the Sleep to Live bed for a length of time in the showroom, I fell in love with the overall comfort and feel of the mattress. Really was much different than others in the showroom.

The salesman said he had a hard time selling this split comfort bed and said the line had been discontinued. He offered it to me for the same price as the regular Queen set I was originally looking at. After a nigh of research, I went back to buy 200 series (red/blue) mattress, box springs, heavy duty frame and delivery for $365 total. It’s being delivered tomorrow, after reading the postings here, sounds like I got a pretty good deal on a mattress that originally sold for $1600+.
natalie brott says:
June 23, 2012 at 3:52 am

Anglea says:
June 23, 2012 at 5:19 pm

You spent $5400 on a mattress? Are you crazy? Who gets suckered into spending $5400 on a mattress? I think my parent’s first house cost less than that.
natalie brott says:
August 24, 2012 at 8:03 am

We purchassed a kingsdown for $6000 from SNOOZE and its a disaster.It is toxic as is the retailer,the manufacturers attitude and the useless warranty.It stinks,has caused us both arm/shoulder and neck pain and my husband has developed sinus and skin problems and now receives weekly treatment from a physiotherapist.We have stopped using it and slerep in our kids beds till we get our money back and get a new mattress.REGREYTTABLY WE TRIED TO INVOKE THEWARRANTY BUT THEY WILL NOT HONOUR IT SO WE ARE WAITING FOR THE COURT TO DEAL WITH THESE SNAKE OIL SALESMEN!
Unhappy mattress owner says:
November 25, 2012 at 10:34 pm

I have had a stl king 400 blue/green for 1.5 years. It is horrible. There is a ditch that I sleep in. When I move at night I have to completely wake up and turn so I can reposition myself in the ditch. I do not get a restful sleep!! I roll uphill to get to the middle of my bed.
Do not go by how this bed feels in the store, they must rotate those floor models frequently!! I am 135 pounds and 5’2 so my weight is not the cause do the depression in this mattress.
I have someone coming for a warranty check, hoping I can get rid of this pain inducing bed!! My hips and back have paid the price. Believe the poor reviews!! P.s. I also paid way to much for this mattress!
Liesl says:
December 21, 2012 at 7:05 pm

Picked up a STL 500 green queen set for $600 including tax at our local wholesale warehouse center here in Memphis, TN. It was new, completely encased in plastic without a spot on it. No showroom, annoying salespeople, and for the price I am not as concerned about it lasting for 15 years. If you are focused on price, it is the way to go. They had two 600 series kings and an 800 king, willing to sell any one of them under $800. All of them were blue or green or some combo of that. Even at the already good prices they will knock off $200-$300 easily.

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